Chapter 1305

Now that the tone of cooperation has been formed, these responsible persons can't talk about these details of how to cooperate at the moment.

Those are the responsibility of the following people.

Moreover, several big men manage everything every day. Naturally, they won't spend too much time on it. Hua Qing and Zhao Xingbang will talk to Yun Fei about the rest.

Although the military has fewer and fewer forces in China, in terms of science and technology, the number of scientific and technological talents they control will never be less than that of state-owned enterprises. Many state-owned enterprises are transformed from the former military industry. At the beginning, China's industrial layout was the same as that of the former Soviet Union, most of which were military industries.

This situation did not begin to change until the old man came to power and should be opened to the outside world. After all, the original enterprises were independent administrative units, and the local government could not intervene. Without reform, that would still be the case in China.

Therefore, Zhao Xingbang naturally has to participate in these things.

These technologies in Yunfei's hands must give priority to military applications. As for whether the private sector will be kept secret for several years before opening up, it can only be determined after the technology comes out.

"Yun Fei, I heard that you are making a stiff quarrel with factory 132 now?" Since we want to talk about cooperation, we naturally have to have dinner and drink at night. Anyway, the money is public money. Yun Fei agreed to the joint invitation of Zhao Xingbang and Hua Qing based on the idea of not eating for nothing.

Unexpectedly, before the wine was drunk and the dishes were served, Zhao Xingbang put forward a problem that Yun Fei was unwilling to talk about.

Shipborne aircraft project that factory 132 wants to do!

"Nothing. Apart from some cooperation, there is still no contradiction between me and them. " Yun Fei doesn't deny it. Huang qiaosong is counting on him to invest in the shipborne aircraft project of plant 132. Yunfei will never do this again.

China's military industry will never open to the private sector. What Yunfei can do is to undertake some military outsourcing orders after a few years of policy loosening. These orders can be regarded as high profits for xinkaixing, but for his huge cloud holdings, these businesses are not enough to plug teeth at all.

He can't get involved in the most profitable military industry.

Moreover, this investment has no return.

If the above does not approve the project of plant 132, he will not even get back the most basic investment in the end. Factory 132 won't deny his account, but relying on what factory 132 misappropriated to repay his funds, can Ma Yue in the year of the monkey get back his money? What's more, carrier based aircraft has high technical requirements, but the market is not small. Even the road of foreign trade is impassable.

How many aircraft carriers are there on the whole earth?

Apart from big countries, which small country can afford an aircraft carrier?

"Do you disagree with their short takeoff Fighter Program?" Zhao Xingbang may have supported factory 132 in doing this.

"Whether they do it or not has nothing to do with me. They succeeded, and there was nothing for me. If they want to build the space shuttle or something, I may be able to borrow some funds to them, but military projects should be the business of your military and the country, which has nothing to do with me. I don't want to die without knowing. Let's stop talking about this topic. " Yun Fei doesn't want to talk about this topic.

Factory 132 wants to borrow money from him again, which is basically impossible.

Huang qiaosong certainly can't stay in factory 132. The old man is over sixty. He was lucky to be able to get the J-10 ahead of time. This guy is becoming more and more greedy. Cloud can't help his inflated ambition.

"President Hua, since we want to cooperate, we have to negotiate a lot of things. I think we can't talk about specific things. These things can be entrusted to the following people. Therefore, our task tonight is to eat and drink seriously. What do you think? " Seeing that Huaqing was about to speak, Yunfei immediately blocked him with words.

It is obviously not appropriate to talk about cooperation now.

They can only reach an intention to cooperate, which is enough. If you want to talk about specific things, you must hand them over to the following responsible persons, so that they can know where their advantages are and what they need.

Hua Qing smiled bitterly and nodded to Yun Fei's words. He raised his glass and touched it with Yun Fei. After drinking it, he said to Yun Fei, "Yun Fei, since we want to cooperate, we also have to have a detailed understanding of both sides. Any department of our Academy of Sciences can be open to you as long as it is not a research project involving state secrets. Look at you, don't you? "

The confidentiality level of research projects in the hands of cloud non is very high, and the whole country is aware of this situation.

"Of course, Dean Hua, just say what you have." Yun Fei doesn't understand what Hua Qing means. Does the old man want to fully open all his research projects to the Chinese Academy of Sciences? That won't work.

"We'd like to visit your lab first to understand your research progress and research environment..." Hua Qing thought about his words again and said slowly to Yun Fei.

"This is no problem. However, at present, the cooperation between us is limited to materials, so it is impossible for the 91 Research Institute to open to you. It's not that I don't trust the Academy of Sciences, but that I don't trust some people who have a strong relationship with the Academy of Sciences... "Yun Fei said seriously.

Hearing Yunfei's words, Huaqing's face immediately darkened.

He originally wanted to take this opportunity to fully understand the progress of the 91 Research Institute under cloud holdings in the research of those projects. Then make some adjustments to the research projects of the Academy of Sciences. Anyway, the National Academy of Sciences, which has concentrated the country's top scientific research force, can't be worse than a scientific research institution of a private enterprise, can it?

"That's no problem. I don't know when it's more appropriate for us to go there? " It's just the September 1 materials, which is enough for the National Institute of materials to study.

The main energy of Jiuyi materials was put on the cutting tool materials for metal machining. Later, it gradually developed to the research on superalloys and advanced electronic materials, which was a big blow to the whole national material research center.

Their investment in these far exceeds Yunfei's investment in 91 materials, but their achievements can't be compared with each other.

This makes them very embarrassed.

"Anytime you have time." Yun Fei said indifferently“ Further research on graphene and molybdenum based chips can only be carried out after the arrival of the high-power electron microscope provided by Philip. Equipment limits our research progress. "

"We have an 800000 times electron microscope and a good optical microscope. Maybe..." Hua Qing was interrupted by Yun Fei before he finished.

"President Hua, the research place of our project can only and must be in the 91 material factory or the 91 Research Institute." Yun Fei emphasized this.

This cooperation has not yet started. Huaqing is making this idea. If it continues, he can't take the project as his own?

This kind of thing can never happen.

"This is for sure..." Hua Qing said awkwardly.

He didn't expect Yun Fei to be so vigilant.

"By the way, President Hua, I heard that in the 1980s, you made two large high-energy particle injection machines, and one of them is still in use by your Chinese Academy of Sciences. Which company got the other one? " In order to change the topic, Yun Fei simply turned Hua Qing's attention to the large-scale high-energy particle injection machine made by the Chinese Academy of Sciences in the 1980s.

At that time, the international market price of a large high-energy particle injector in the world exceeded US $300000, which was a necessary equipment for the semiconductor electronics industry. What China lacks most is the electronic industry.

It almost adopted the mode of tackling key problems, and spent tens of millions of money to get two particle injection machines.

One is still in the Chinese Academy of Sciences. It has been continuously improved over the years and is still in use, while the other doesn't know its whereabouts.

The cooperation with Philip began because of the advanced equipment such as large-scale high-energy ion implanters that cannot be provided in China.

Cloud is not their own imitation of the particle injection machine can not meet their requirements. The research progress of the new round of eight inch 100 nm large angle high-energy particle injection machine in Chengdu lithography Research Institute is not ideal.

It may be easier to leave this matter to the Chinese Academy of Sciences.

I just don't know if the technology of the Chinese Academy of Sciences is better than that of Chengdu. After all, Chengdu lithography Research Institute has imported equipment they produce and use for imitation and upgrading.

"That craft is too backward. There is no problem for small batch experimental IC production, but if you want to use it for large-scale manufacturing in your Jiuxin era, it is estimated to be a little difficult. " As soon as Yunfei said it, Huaqing knew Yunfei's purpose.

Yunfei and Philip company were so noisy that they didn't turn over. Finally, it was because the domestic equipment production process and technology were not good.

"How is your research progress with the eight inch 100 nm large angle particle injector?" Yunfei now does not expect 65 nm, let alone 32 nm and 22 nm particle injection machines.

These things are difficult for the whole world.

After all, now 100 nm is the top.

Hua Qing was a little embarrassed when he heard Yun Fei's question. He thought Yun Fei was going to hit them with this: "what? Have you made great progress in this regard? "

"No, I just want to find a stable domestic supplier. It's too difficult to get these things from abroad. " Yun Fei sighed.