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Christopher Nolan was really impatient, he arrived in New York the next evening, and then the paparazzi saw Evan Bell and Christopher Nolan walking into the Olive Garden restaurant together, and the media started immediately. Fryer.
Who are these two people? One is the new Oscar winner, the third absolute upstart in history to win the Oscar for best director; the other is the first major director in history to bring a comic book hero movie to the Oscar nomination list. In addition, the two also jointly contributed the two masterpieces "Chase in the White Night" and "The Dark Knight", and they were even close friends. The meeting between them was on the second day after the Oscars ended. It really gets people thinking.
The paparazzi always speculate according to their own ideas, and many times they will deliberately ignore the original story trajectory. For example, Evan Bell and Christopher Nolan are friends from the beginning, and they are both artists at Eleven Studio. Eating together is really normal. This time, however, the paparazzi's guesses hit the bull's-eye.
"I thought about it all night last night," Christopher Nolan is indeed a persistent person, and it is estimated that on the flight from Los Angeles to New York, his brain did not stop resting, "I understand what you mean, a really good movie Emotion is a necessary factor, and it can even sublimate the theme of the entire film.”
To make a simple comparison, in the "Mission Impossible" series, the second film directed by Wu. Yu. Sen has always been a special existence. Why, because this film is interspersed with a lot of love elements, the whole film has changed. Gotta be romantic. In "Mission Impossible 2", Ethan fell in love with the enemy's ex-wife, but in order to eradicate this enemy, he had to send his beloved back to the devil. In order to complete the task, he had to rescue his beloved. , Ethan once again embarked on the path of the mission.
In fact, it is in the 007 series of movies and the Mission: Impossible series of movies. Female characters have always been just a symbol. They have "no" names and are collectively referred to as Bond girls. They are completely the existence of a vase. Some of them can also be a help for James Bond to complete his tasks, and sometimes even just become Just a postcard from James Bond's travels around the world. This makes the entire movie completely immersed in the thrill of the adventure action, disconnected from the emotion.
Before Evan Bell was reborn, "007 Skybreaker" was released worldwide. This movie is hailed as the best of the 007 series, not because of how attractive the Bond girls are, but because the characters in the play have become flesh and blood, the villain is here for revenge, and the villain and the The past between Ms. M makes the two characters full and three-dimensional, and the whole story is smooth. Even with an artistic touch.
The same is true in Christopher Nolan's films, "Memento" and "The Chase in the White Night" focus on guilt, while "Deadly Magic" focuses on obsession and obsession. "Mystery" takes the instincts of guilt and fear as the main axis, and "The Dark Knight" amplifies the definition of justice and evil by human instinct to the extreme. This emotional or conceptual theme has always been at the heart of Christopher Nolan's films.
Therefore, Christopher Nolan can understand Evan Bell's intention, but he has doubts, "I originally planned to set the emotion of the protagonist of this story as a return, but this emotional setting is too weak. I don't think it's possible. Convince the audience that I can't even agree with it. In a stealth film, where emotion trumps theoretical solutions at the core, does it work?"
Evan Bell did not rush to speak, but looked at Christopher Nolan and motioned for him to continue.
"In my films, there are passages where you have to sit down and let the emotion flow slowly from the tip of the pen - in a very emotional way, and then spend a lot of time revising it until it's believable. "Christopher Nolan didn't have any pauses either. Then said. "I have to feel that emotion that I first burst into, and then you have to cool down. Analyze it, deconstruct it, reassemble it as part of the film. The real emotion is really the key in this process. But the point is, how do you make it work? This emotion becomes real, not only the director feels real, but also makes the audience feel real, which is the basis for the film to become alive.”
"In many movies, what I object to as a fan is that I'm supposed to get a certain emotion while watching the movie, but I don't trust the writer of the movie to share that emotion. I don't buy it." Christopher -Although Nolan's words are many, it is not difficult to understand. Evan Bell can't help but nod his approval. "They just thought the audience would. And I think the audience can feel this kind of alienation and deliberateness." Christopher - What Nolan didn't say is that he thinks Evan Bell is very good at this point, which is one of the reasons why he is willing to discuss with Evan Bell.
Whether it's Evan Bell's early work "Mysterious Skin" or the recent "Juno", the emotion in the movie is actually not obvious, but more embedded in the whole story, quietly infiltrating little by little come out. It's not that the character is there shouting "I'm in pain", the audience will really feel that the character is in pain, like watching Neil in "Mysterious Skin" lying on the bed with someone under him doing oral work for him , but his face was expressionless, and this kind of dullness and confusion were clearly conveyed.
"So I re-examined my script after hearing what you said yesterday," Christopher Nolan said, and then gradually entered the point, "I want to explore a story about dreams, which is very private. Things. I don't think things are that simple, it's not that a group of people get together, make up a story, and then go into a dream, plant seeds, and that's it. Because this dream is incomprehensible to outsiders, it must have something to do with the dreamer The emotional connection, but also the connection with the team."
"People always create things according to their own instincts." Evan Bell inserted this sentence, and immediately made Christopher Nolan nodded forcefully, "That's it!" It's very simple, I have never been to the top of the Himalayas. People who are not able to describe the feeling of standing on the top of the mountain, even if you watch it on TV, the emotions conveyed are not necessarily true. This is also the reason why painting or writing can show a person's personality, because these pictograms hide the real emotions and experiences of the characters.
"So I thought, how can this connection be established, you said, it is emotion, this is the common ground, so how can this emotion be reflected?" This is Christopher Nolan's biggest doubt at the moment. To put it simply, now each character has his own emotions, and they are all set, but how to connect with each other and how to connect with the story is very complicated. A really good story is not as simple as it seems.
After Evan Bell said that yesterday, he actually thought about it after he came back, so he didn't pause for too long, and then went on to say, "I think it should be divided into two parts, the first is the emotion of the protagonist of the story. , the emotion of this character is not only the framework for constructing the whole story, for example, why does he do these things, when he breaks into the dream, whether there is a reflection of his emotions in the dream, what impact does this have on the team work, After all, a dream is actually a psychological world, and any psychological change will lead to changes in all situations; the second part is the connection between all the characters in the script. Here, I think visual symbols are probably the easiest to cause The things that resonate, most easily infuse experiences, memories and emotions.”
"You mean, personal logo or totem?" Christopher Nolan responded immediately.
The inspiration for the emotional infusion of small objects has appeared several times in Christopher Nolan's stories. For example, in the "Following" story, a person has a box with symbolic objects in it. The item in this box was stolen by a thief, and this item has no meaning or value to the thief, but it is a representative of emotional resonance for the owner.
Like the gold watch that boxer Butch had in the "Pulp Fiction" story. This gold watch is actually not valuable, but for Butch, it was left to his father by his grandfather, and his father left it to him from the Vietnam War after all the hardships, so it has a special meaning. He would rather risk his life to get the gold watch back. This has the meaning of totem.
Also in "Memento" the male protagonist has a set of his wife's relics, which is the same meaning.
"Yes, that's what it means." Evan Bell nodded and said, "This totem is a symbol for everyone to distinguish between dreams and reality, and it also connects all characters, who is in the dream, who is In reality again. In addition, this totem is also poured into each person's emotional characteristics." Speaking of which, Evan Belt paused, as if organizing his own language, but he did not pause for too long, and again He opened his mouth and said, "During the explanation of the story, the theory about dreams must be very boring, or in other words, when you enter the dream and plant the seeds, but you can't wake up, what should you do? There must be a rhythm. Then, this totem is not only a symbol, but the emotional meaning on it can ease the boring of the explanation. At the same time, when encountering difficulties, the totem also has a special meaning - for example, if you are trapped in a dream after entering a dream how people wake up."
Having said that, Christopher Nolan has come to understand, he took the topic and said, "I have an idea about being trapped in a dream, but we can talk about it later. I am thinking about your first part just now. , is the emotion of the protagonist, how do you think it should be set? It is not easy to make a stealing film have a deeper meaning."
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