360 Chapter 352 PECVD

Fengtian

After dinner, the guests were exhausted from the journey and were sent to the guest house to rest.

In the morning of the next day, the host and guest were seated again and continued yesterday's talks.

Cheng Yongxing basically did not participate in the MOCVD discussion.The production of these LEDs is no longer worth his investment.There are Type III equipment, yes, no, it doesn’t matter.

One Type III can be worth four or five Type IIs, so just use five Type IIs.

Everything can be dealt with, the only thing that cannot be dealt with is time.

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Cheng Yongxing's visit this time is a core machine for the LCD project.

In the production steps of LCD, there is an equipment that is very close to MOCVD in function and status, but in LCD production, its name is PECVD!

In the process of upgrading the LCD production line, from the first generation to the second generation, the biggest change that has occurred is this PECVD.

With this PECVD, it is the second generation, without, it is the first generation!

The Chinese interpretation of PECVD (PlasmaEnhancedChemicalVaporDeposition) is plasma enhanced chemical vapor deposition.

It uses microwave or radio frequency to ionize the gas containing the film constituent atoms to form plasma locally.The plasma chemical activity is very strong, it is easy to react, and deposit the desired film on the substrate.

The AKT-1600 CVD produced by American Yingcai in 1993, once launched, monopolized this market.

MOCVD is already a very expensive semiconductor equipment, and the price of a mass production type is about 20 million.

Can PECVD?AKT-55KPECVD, the single unit sells for more than 100 million!

What is a high profit margin?This is the real high profit margin!

It doesn't matter how expensive it is. More importantly, this kind of equipment is destined to have nothing to do with optoelectronics, so don't even want to buy it.So optoelectronics must find another way.

In fact, in the field of MOCVD, Keyi is not well-known in later generations.But they are very famous in the PECVD field!

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When it comes to PECVD, a group of people in the conference room are all interested.This can be regarded as scratching their flesh.

As a member of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, Keyi's main responsibilities include the research and development of PECVD.

In recent years, the life of the entire scientific research system has not been too easy.The Chinese Academy of Sciences system is relatively good compared to other scientific research institutes under other ministries and commissions, at least there is no problem in survival.

Even so, the national-level projects in the Chinese Academy of Sciences system also face the problem of insufficient scientific research funding.Throughout the 1990s, a large number of major projects were dismantled successively, all due to lack of money.

With the improvement of the economic benefits of Fengtian Scientific Instruments, more attention has been paid within the Chinese Academy of Sciences system.Now that Keyi has found its own way and has broken out a new way, can some projects that are about to be abandoned be transferred to Keyi Factory?

It’s good to work for optoelectronics and produce MOCVD, but no one wants to be a lifetime processing factory, right?

Liu Minxue and Keyi were also very busy during this period.On the one hand, the production tasks of MOCVD are abnormally saturated. On the other hand, some scientific research tasks are also scheduled.

In the production of MOCVD, Keyi also encountered trouble, that is, there were too many orders and it was too busy.Especially the simple version orders, almost like snow flakes.

This involves another issue, and that is capacity.With the existing equipment and production capacity of the factory, it is simply unable to meet all market demands.

The profits brought about by MOCVD production are not a problem with food and clothing, and even a well-off.But if you want to go to the next level, for example, if you change a batch of processing equipment or buy a few large computing workstations, you don't even think about it.

MOCVD has a high profit margin, and the profit of those mainframes is even higher!

All of this is stuck on the word "money".

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A group of people talked happily all morning. Everyone talked happily, but it was of no use.No money!

After lunch, the old and the young sat alone together.

"Do you smoke a cigarette?"

"No smoking. Don't poison me. I'm still the flower of the motherland."

In this era, the most uncomfortable thing for Cheng Yongxing is smoking.Basically, when a few people sit together, the first thing is smoking.

These people who deliver cigarettes, if the guests do not smoke, they will not reluctantly.But they won't ask, they just smoked it.

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"Xiaocheng, this is the situation now. We are very interested in PECVD for liquid crystals, but we don’t have funds. It’s impossible to count on state funding. I’m still the original suggestion. The two of us must cooperate to make this happen. ."

Around New Year's Day, Liu Minxue put forward this suggestion, that is, Optoelectronics will use patents and market resources to buy shares in Science Instrument, or establish a new joint venture company.This new entity can use the benefits of MOCVD to support the R&D department and continue its development.

This proposal has not been implemented, mainly because of the IQ tax.

This money is very important for optoelectronic research.Especially when the large LED screen has not contributed money.It is the company's only cash flow.

The same goes for the laser company.No matter which entity, it is dissatisfied that it is only reduced to a processing factory.

Where is this compelling!

Full of warm thinking**.

This situation has also been discussed several times within the Science Instrument Factory.After all, everyone started with scientific research. Now that they are full and have some strength, they want to run two steps.

They do everything, but the bulk of the profit is taken away by others, who is willing?

In the beginning, Cheng Yongxing had some ideas, but almost a year passed.Whether in theory or practical ability, he has no new contributions.

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"Let's add up."

Cheng Yongxing finally nodded.When things must be resolved.

In this era, the role of intellectual property rights, especially in China, is not taken seriously by people.This IQ tax, now that it is received, is almost time to stop.

In fact, Cheng Yongxing has a lot of mentality without mentioning many things.

Patents, especially patented technologies with such a great value, violate the basic common sense of most people in the domestic environment.Not to mention the stakes.

In the cooperation between the two sides, what really matters is mutual trust.It is the gentleman agreement, not the patent itself.

It is not easy for the Key Instrument Factory to comply with the gentleman's agreement for so long.

"However, this time I have a request."

"any request?"

When Liu Min learned this, he almost didn't have the cigarette in his hand and took a picture of his lap.This IQ tax has almost become the biggest obstacle to the continued development of Keyi.

With this financial resources, equipment renewal, and staff expansion, you have confidence.Profit is one aspect. Sales channels are pinched in the hands of others. What a dangerous thing.What if the other party changes to a processing plant someday?

"First, the LCDPECVD project is the first priority."

"no problem!"

PECVD is originally the job of Science Instrument.

"Second, the Bingcheng branch must be built this time."

The LCD project has considerable confidentiality.Some things must be produced under Cheng Yongxing's nose.

"Okay! It's up to you."

"Third, this joint venture entity, Optoelectronics will account for the majority! Major shareholder!"

What happened this time, to put it bluntly, was caused by the lack of control over scientific instruments by optoelectronic research.If PECVD succeeds again, but it is still the same way, they sell the equipment to a third party, what about optoelectronics?

"I need someone to discuss this."

Liu Minxue did not dare to agree directly this time.The current scientific instrument is not the one of last year.

Last year, the factory wanted to give it away for nothing!As long as someone is willing to pay.

At present, Keyi wants products, has products, wants profit and profit, and has a lot of prospects.Moreover, the Science Instrument Factory itself did not count many things, and asked its superiors to nod their heads.

Keyi belongs to the Chinese Academy of Sciences series, and the Chinese Academy of Sciences is its boss.Due to block management, Fengtian City can also be regarded as its superior.After all, when Keyi was unable to eat, it was Fengtian who helped to survive.

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Soon, a complex round of multi-party talks began.

This kind of thing will not come to a conclusion so quickly.Qian Dezhi was kept, and Cheng Yongxing returned to Bingcheng first.