Chapter 1408

Because the specific matters have not been determined, it is not easy for both sides to discuss the issue of stock investment for the time being.

After a few words, Li Dong also consulted Li Zexiang about some artificial intelligence problems.

However, Li Zexiang's main focus is in the field of robotics. Although he has a high understanding of artificial intelligence, some specific applications are not clear enough.

Li Dong knew something about it, but didn't go on talking about it in depth.

Li Zexiang, on the other hand, mentioned that robots would replace labor to speed up efficiency and reduce labor costs. He hoped that Li Dong would consider investment.

He now has his own team, with many students to do robot research and development work.

Unfortunately, Li Dong didn't agree.

It's not that Li Dong really doesn't like these things, but he also has his own consideration.

UAV investment, that is because it can be used immediately, and can increase the overall competitiveness of the distance.

As for robots, there is not much need at present.

No matter how much investment, there is no practical efficiency improvement and cost reduction.

As for competitiveness, there is no added value.

And at present, Li Dong still needs human resources to support him to complete all the infrastructure construction. Even if the robot can be used in the distance, he may not accept it.

Solving the surplus human resources is a magic weapon all over the world.

Although unmanned aerial vehicles have also replaced human resources, Li Dong only wants to cover remote areas, which are still blank spots and will not have any other impact.

……

Wang Tao and Wang Tao were Li Dong's last guests to Shenzhen.

As for Cheng Ping, Li Dong didn't see him.

Of course, he didn't know that the other party was coming to him. Anyway, after knowing that Wang Wei had come, Cheng Ping ran away. He didn't know where to make the plan to impress Li Dong.

On the 18th, after seeing the last guests, Li Dong began to prepare for the return journey.

The front foot white Su just packed up the thing, the back foot Ma Huateng came to the phone.

A call, Ma Huateng on the way: "shooting things can talk about."

……

10 p.m.

Hotel Cafe.

Ma Huateng looked around and said after a long time, "I thought you would choose a bar."

Li Dong laughed: "am I so unreliable? It's not noisy. It's still quiet here. We can talk about it in detail

"Paipaipai can be sold to distant places, but it's just a platform. We have no right to ask for it, nor can we do it.

What's more, Teng Xun won't open the traffic entrance! "

Li Dong immediately frowned: "do not open the flow entrance, how much value is your paipaipai net?

It's just a platform. I want to build one, two, three things.

Most of your users are based on QQ will choose to pat, no QQ traffic entrance support, the value of paipaipai is almost nothing. "

Ma Huateng calmly said: "I can't give fire support to competitors. In fact, I know your mind. No matter whether you are aiming at taking out treasure first, QQ will be your goal sooner or later.

At present, I will not open up our platform and give you a big chance again.

However, I do not directly cut off all possibilities. During the integration period, we will still open the platform entrance for you.

Of course, this is a limited period. Within half a year, you should do a good job of relocation.

If you promise, we can talk about it. If you don't, there's no need to talk about it. "

"Half a year? How to integrate half a year?

At least a year!

Within a year, you open the entrance to us. Don't worry, I won't take advantage of you. On QQ platform, you only need to open C2C platform. I won't force you to open the entrance of distant mall to us.

If not for a year, paipaipai network acquisition or not is not necessary. "

Ma Huateng pondered for a moment, and finally nodded: "yes, only one year.

Then we can talk about it in depth, about the shares of distant Mall... "

Li Dong looked surprised and said, "do you think too much?

You don't want to open the entrance of the mall to me. Do you still want to talk about shares with me?

Why should the distant mall introduce Teng Xun, for your entrance.

There is no such thing. Why should I introduce you? I can introduce more enterprises. Who is more suitable than you!

Brother Ma, we both understand people. I don't treat you as a fool, and you don't treat me as a fool.

Do you think it's appropriate to talk about it? "

Ma Huateng frowned: "since there is no such premise, why should I sell paipaipai net?

As you said, can't I find other partners?

Is there nothing more suitable than you?

And I don't have to sell it. "

Li Dong said with a smile: "therefore, cooperation should be sincere.

I will give you the shares of the mall, and you will open the entrance for me. Will this be a success?To be honest, QQ is now limited in competitiveness and drainage.

I admit that your users have a high viscosity and are still the first instant messaging service.

But we have a lot of overlapped users, and there are many customers who use the two softwares at the same time.

Your attraction to us lies in the part that does not coincide with each other, and among those users, those who will choose online shopping are even smaller.

And through QQ entrance online shopping, is a small part of the small part.

Last year, the total performance of your auction was only about 15 billion yuan, which can reach 10% of the treasure out, which is even lower than the C2C performance of the distant mall.

I even if you are even better this year, the performance has increased, but even if all of them are converted into distant achievements, can there be 20 billion?

This is a C2C platform, not a B2C proprietary business, more than 20 billion?

Only if you open the entrance to the distant shopping mall, our performance may increase by a certain extent, then we can have the value of cooperation.

Otherwise, the value of cooperation is limited.

At this time, you still expect the shares of the distant mall. Brother Ma, I'm not going to hit you. Instead, I'd better buy the former e-commerce overlord, Tom eBay now. "

Ma Huateng looked at him for a while and then said, "then there is no need to talk about it."

Li Dong nodded his head and said: "it's really not worth talking about. Of course, if you are willing to sell, I'm willing to accept it, cash transaction.

As for the distant shares, there is no need to talk about it. "

Ma took a deep breath and asked, "how much are you willing to give?"

"QQ platform support, clapping value of 1 billion, no, 500 million days."

"In your words, the value of the treasure is only 5 billion?"

Li Dong Ning Mei said: "it's all understanding people. It's not interesting to change concepts.

Is 150 billion and 15 billion ten times the gap?

This is a hundred times more than the gap!

Do you think the instant messaging software with 3 million users is only 100 times different from QQ?

I can buy instant messaging software with 3 million users. You can sell me 1 billion by QQ. Do you want to do it? "

Ma Huateng chuckled: "this is also true. In fact, 500 million yuan is not low. You are not too hard pressed.

The key is, there is no distant mall shares, sold alone paipaipai net, we do not have much help.

It's 500 million. Teng Xun can still bring it out. "

"I can't help it. You just think about yourself and don't think about me?

I have no good things, will do it?

Close the entrance. Thank you!

In business, although we are rivals, the mall does not involve your business. Why.

It's good for you and me.

Do you think that if I grow up in e-commerce, it will affect other directions?

I don't think so. In fact, it's also true.

Not to mention, our distant mall access QQ, to your great benefit.

Previously, some of our PP users were forced to use PP because of the shopping needs of the mall.

But once access to QQ, users found that, without PP, seems to be able to shop.

Some QQ old users, will choose to return.

I am harming the interests of PP, to be a mall, have you considered this?

I thought you had thought about it. I was sure that you would choose cooperation because I think you have a long-term view.

This is an invisible increase in the competitiveness of QQ, but weaken the competitiveness of PP.

I found out that you are too narrow-minded! "

Li Dong shook his head and said, "you know that my e-commerce will grow larger and make more money. Can I not make complaints about it?

Just look at you. I'll take it.

QQ does not access to the remote mall, but also to eliminate the paipaipai network, the game industry is not good, other business is not, at that time, you really became a simple chat software.

The key is that if you really want to chat, isn't it the same to choose PP?

At least PP can shop, manage money, watch videos, use tourist devices, and even map right away

Since there are other choices, why choose QQ?

But once the mall is connected, it's different.

Not to say how much competitiveness, at least a large number of online shopping users will not choose to give up QQ, brother Ma, their own more thinking.

The short-sighted people are doomed to go for a long time.

In recent years, you haven't recovered from the joy of success. Consider the reality. "

Ma Huateng hummed, "so you're still thinking about me?"

"Isn't it? It's not just for you, but it's the same thing.

In addition, I am sharing, sharing understand!This is my main idea in the future. Share everything with me. You know, successful entrepreneurs will come to this stage.

And I, Li Dong, are moving forward in this field.

You Ma Huateng, for the time being, don't understand the psychology of us. It's a pity that you still have a long way to go from me

Ma Huateng was angry and said with a smile: "I am not small distance from you, at least in terms of face, I am really inferior to you!"

With that said, Ma Huateng hesitated again.

Although Li Dong has the element of flickering in it, he has to say that maybe things are really the same as what he said.

If we give up e-commerce, will we lose some users again?

This possibility still exists, and very big!

On the contrary, the introduction of remote shopping malls, some online shopping users, before most of them were QQ users, it is not impossible to choose regression.

However, Ma Huateng still asked: "if the introduction of remote shopping mall, QQ users can do account universal?

I mean not only that part of QQ platform, including the whole distant mall system!

In addition, if you really want to cooperate, TenPay will be introduced into the whole remote mall. Of course, I didn't think that it would completely replace the ten thousand card, which would give users one more choice and increase your competitiveness.

There are many users of TenPay. Because of the different payment system, many customers choose to give up online shopping in the distance.

Now, with the introduction of TenPay, you will certainly increase some users. "

Li Dong raised his eyebrows and said, "I said, you are really demanding.

You know what payment system means to online shopping platform!

Introduction of TenPay, you dare to think, this is the diversion of ten thousand cartoon users, do you think I will agree?

And the payment system involves the core data of the mall. Even if you don't do e-commerce, can I give these data to you?

even Suning, their customers who are easy to pay, are still reluctant to introduce Alipay and WAN cartoon, but rather less business. What is this?

They are all people who understand. How dare you mention this kind of thing... "

Ma Huateng is a little chatty. In fact, he also knows that this requirement is too much.

But he is not willing to, directly into the distant mall.

Can not introduce, and can not get the shares of the distant mall, everything is back to the origin.

However, Teng Xun has been ready to give up e-commerce, go to battle light, and fully conquer the mobile terminal.

Do you really want to choose 500 million for sale and auction and do one-off business?

Just as he was pondering over what to do, Li Dong said and suddenly said with a smile, "but since you mentioned it, I'm not one of those people who are worried about things!

my idea is to share, not to mention money paid. If Ma Yun agrees, how about introducing Alipay?

Li Dong is not afraid of this!

This is our customers, that can not run, simply want to rely on a payment software binding users, impossible!

This is not the performance of self-confidence, ten thousand cartoon now PC market share second, mobile market share first, absolute first!

We have the means of payment that is ahead of the rest of the world, and we have the courage to continue to develop, so that others can not surpass. That is what we should do.

Introduce TenPay. OK, I agreed.

As long as you are responsible for the user's funds, their property security, and the payment for goods from merchants, what if some of the data are controlled by you.

Li Dong doesn't care about this, Ma Huateng. Do you think I will worry about this?

From your refusal to enter the distant mall QQ platform, I will no longer regard you as an opponent.

You're scared, you're cowardly, you don't have the courage to fight.

In the future, you will only be my business partner, not my pursuit target any more. Just talk about cooperation, and nothing else. "

Ma Huateng did not refute and ridicule as usual.

His face changed for a while, and Ma Huateng said slowly, "yes, I'm cowardly. I'm afraid.

I don't need you to take me as the goal of transcendence, what I do is just myself.

I think it's the right thing to do, and I'll choose to do it.

I believe three parts of your words, but I don't believe the rest.

The more I said that, the more sure I was making the right choice.

Since you have Li Dong's atmosphere, you can't refuse. Caifutong is connected to the distant mall.

If you are more magnanimous and willing to let TenPay access to Weibo and PP, then I will admit that you Li Dong has the courage and irresistible courage, and I will convince Ma Huateng's courage! "

"Poof!"

Li Dong sprayed his face directly, Ma De, what a shame!

This guy says he is thick skinned, but he is not as thick as he is!

Did I say to let ten thousand cartoon access QQ?

I dare not say this, you Ma Huateng actually said the export, on this cheek, dare to say me?

As for TenPay's access to the remote mall, Li Dong is not too worried.Cai Fu Tong's competitiveness is not as strong as Alipay. Their customers are innate customers. They used tens of thousands of cartoons. Li Dong believes that they will not choose Cai Fu Tong again.

is like digging out treasure. If the later generation's treasure is to be paid to fortune pay, will there be a large number of users who choose to abandon Alipay and choose fortune pay?

That's impossible!

Perhaps imperceptibly, the user of TenPay has become the user of ten thousand cartoon, which is normal.

As long as the default payment method is not TenPay, there is no great harm to the distance.

And Li Dong doesn't care too much about business data.

As long as there is no problem with the funds, the current data will almost become shared data.

With the advent of the era of big data, many secrets are no longer confidential, and many privacy are no longer privacy.

Since Ma Huateng has to find a psychological comfort for himself, Li Dongcheng is all right with him.

Li Dong thought about this side, but Ma Huateng's face turned blue. He took a napkin and wiped his face. Ma Huateng said angrily, "Li Dong, it's too much!"

Li Dong said with a dry smile, "I'm sorry, I can't help it.

You know, what you just said made a big impact on me. I totally changed my outlook on you.

As for you, you are still the target of my pursuit. I found that I was not thick skinned enough. Really, I realized my own shortcomings.

Brother Ma, you are brother. I will continue to learn from you.

When I don't call you pony, I'll learn your essence. "

"Get out of here

Ma Huateng didn't have a good way: "you don't come here. Since you are willing to connect caifutong to the distant mall, then we can continue to talk about it!

By the way, the problem of common account

"Nonsense, TenPay has been connected to you. Do I still care about this?"

Li Dong said with a smile: "seriously, I don't care too much about these. The competitiveness can't be improved by some small means.

You mean now PP and QQ account can be used, I have no problem.

If we integrate, it will be very helpful and convenient for users.

How about it, think about it? "

Ma Huateng said bluntly: "don't think too much! Most of your users are our regular users. I don't need to integrate with you. "

"Stingy."

Li Dong sneered and took a sip of coffee and said, "stop talking nonsense. I'll agree to your terms if I don't want to. Then you can stop talking nonsense about my terms. You know my efficiency.

QQ, we can directly access the remote shopping mall.

Of course, QQ users login, need to share data, you have to consider clearly before.

This is the premise of the cooperation. In addition, I will transfer 10% of the shares of the distant mall to you. Paipaipai net plus 5 billion cash will do.

As for whether it is too much, you should know.

Of course, this is a sale, not financing, so the 5 billion cash is mine, it has nothing to do with you.

In addition, we will vigorously develop C2C shopping mall in the future, and increase investment from afar.

If you don't want the shares to be diluted, you should continue to increase the capital, or we will gradually dilute your shares. You should understand this even if I don't say so. "

Ma Huateng Ning eyebrow way: "that is to say, your valuation to the distant mall exceeds 60 billion!"

Li Dong said with a light smile: "with the clapping, it's estimated to be 60 billion. What's the matter? Is it worth making a fuss about less than $9 billion? "

Ma Huateng clenched his teeth and said, "nine billion dollars!

Li Dong, who can exaggerate the most in the industry? No one dares to recognize the second!

A distant mall is almost half of Teng Xun's and half of Baidu's You might as well go and grab it!

If you add other logistics or cartoon, I can accept it.

You are a single e-mall, dare to ask me for a paipaipai net and 5 billion cash. You can't rob the bank so fast! "

Li Dong raised his eyebrow and said, "why do I rob a bank? How can a bank have a capital institution to make money quickly.

What's the matter? I choose to sell the equity right now. This is the most original equity. You are still the first one with 10% without adulteration.

It's only five billion dollars in cash. Is it really much? "

"You don't talk to me about this. It's impossible for 5 billion!"

Ma Huateng is a little impatient. What is a lion opening his mouth? This is it!

At present, the scale of online shopping market is not large. Last year, the transaction volume of e-mall was only more than 100 billion. Li Dong gave a valuation of 60 billion, which is too high!

He thought it was high, but Li Dong didn't think so.

You know, the B2C business of distant mall has exceeded 100 billion!

Not to mention anything else, compared with the previous Jingdong, Jingdong only broke through the 100 billion mark in 13 years. When is it!

It is not a concept to reach the level of Jingdong five years ahead of schedule and five years after the previous life.Now that the market environment is limited, Li Dong gave a 50% discount and said 60 billion yuan, otherwise he would call it 100 billion yuan.

Of course, Li Dong subconsciously ignored that Jingdong included logistics, but he did not.

But even if there is no logistics, Li Dong thinks that after the acquisition and auction, coupled with the immediate need to fully enter the C2C field, RMB 60 billion is worth it.

Ma Huateng saw his expression and said for a long time: "I'll go back and think about it. In addition, 5 billion plus paipaipai net is too much.

Specifically, we can continue to talk about it later.

Don't open your mouth, it's meaningless.

Once you are defeated in the C2C field, the value will be greatly reduced. Don't put the future expectation into the present.

If this is the case, Internet companies do not want to finance.

Who is not full of confidence in their own future, you expect 10 billion, he expected 100 billion, the key is that anyone is willing to accept? "

Li Dong said confidently: "I don't care whether others accept me or not. Li Dong says that the distant mall is worth 60 billion yuan. Do you believe it or not, someone is still rushing to send me money!"

What Ma Huateng said was speechless.

In this world, the strong are always strong, so simple.

As the number one in the field of e-commerce, especially in the B2C platform, Li Dong said that 60 billion yuan is definitely accepted by some people.

The key is that Ma Huateng doesn't want to accept it!

After taking a deep breath, Mahua jumped up and said, "I'll talk about it later. Teng Xun is not my own, including the previous conditions. At present, they are all verbal.

We'll talk about it in detail when I'm ready. "

Li Dong said with a smile: "yes, but the efficiency is faster. I have too many things here, but I don't have as much leisure as you."

"I @ ා"

Ma Huateng mumbled a few words, but Li Dong didn't hear clearly.

But it's not a good thing to say. Of course, he's used to it.

Also lazy to ask what little brother Ma said, Li Dong looked at the time and said: "I have to have a rest. I will return to Pingchuan tomorrow, so I won't send you.

But before the end of February, be sure to give me an accurate answer. I can only wait until then. "

Ma Huateng's heart was still, nodded and didn't speak again. He got up and walked away.

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